Easy money -- maybe I'm dumb, but I just realized this...

Discussion in 'The Sims 2' started by GrindLine33, Oct 14, 2004.

  1. GrindLine33

    GrindLine33 New Member

    Easy money -- maybe I'm dumb, but I just realized this...

    In the original Sims I used to get my families pretty rich by milking the promotions bonuses. When I first started a family I'd work the Sims and get them up to level 3 or 4 in their career tracks then have them get a job at the bottom of the track again, raking in some easy money netting them triple pay each day while they continued to build skills/make friends to advance further up the ladder. If you had a family with a athlete and a business Sim you could build a small fortune fairly quickly without cheating, working them up their career ladders but having them start out at the bottoms periodically to pull in the bonuses.

    Now, I haven't done that so much in The Sims 2 but today I realized quite by accident an incredibly simple way to make 20,000 simoleans in just a few minutes. Move a Sim out by having him find his own place. Move him into a house, by him a phone, save and exit. Go back to the house he just moved out from and have a Sim there invite him over. This works perfectly with married Sims who have a great relationship. When he arrives, propose Move In. He moves back in with his 20,000 simoleans he got to start out with when he moved out.

    I can't believe that never occurred to me before. I don't know if anyone has mentioned it before here, I tried to look but didn't see it brought up. But if I'm repeating something that's already been discussed, I apologize. If everyone has already realized this on their owns and I'm just a little slow on the uptake, again, I apologize.

    I seriously realized this quite by accident because I had a glitch on one lot where the headmaster disappeared during the middle of dinner one time and would never come back. I'd call, he'd say he was coming, but never showed up. Finally, I had to do something to get 2 of the kids into private school. Not only was public school killing their Fun scores, the father was stuck with 4 power wants on his Aspiration meter... getting both kids into private school, being saved from death, and reaching the top of the Science career track. He was getting very low in his Aspiration meter but, despite working furiously to get his skills high enough for his promotion, there was nothing I could do. So I finally had him move out and take the 2 kids with him. I put him in a house, bought a cheap table and chairs, fridge, telescope, and piano and invited the headmaster. Got the kids into school by 10:00 their first day, sold all the stuff back, then moved them back in with mom and baby sister. Dad went from borderline Aspiration failure to platinum mood (which was my goal) and when he moved back in his cash came with him. Bonus! :D

    I'm not opposed to using the cheat codes to get "free" money sometimes, but I do like to avoid it most of the time. But if there's something like this that isn't technically "cheating" but built right into the game, you can sure bet I'll exploit it!
     
  2. J. M. Pescado

    J. M. Pescado Fat Obstreperous Jerk

    Sorry, this is old news. :)

    It's nice to know you've discovered it yourself, but it's already been mentioned a few million times already.

    And yeah, school royally kills the fun meter on kids, and homework does it again. One way you can cut down on both spam, and the drudgery, and improve your the lot of your kids in life, is to do the homeschool trick. I cover this in one of the threads regarding private school:
    http://forums.worldsims.org/showthread.php?t=3240
     
  3. Xenu

    Xenu New Member

    Of course it's a cheat to take this bonus.
    The problem is that you CAN'T move in and out for other reasons without activating this cheat.

    Is there any way to get rid of unwanted money?
     
  4. J. M. Pescado

    J. M. Pescado Fat Obstreperous Jerk

    I somehow don't think it would be an aspiration to move out if it weren't for the free 20K. Maybe it's a government housing loan, the interest of which you pay for in the bills that arrive in the mail even when the only thing there is an empty lot?

    Err, well, you could use a hex editor to erase the unwanted funds. SimPE can do this. Alternatively, you could just pave and unpave your entire lot a few times at a loss.

    'sides, if Sims moved out with zero money, they wouldn't be able to buy a lot at all and would be lost in space forever, unable to be contacted due to lack of a phone to move back into anything!
     
  5. ManagerJosh

    ManagerJosh Benevolent Dictator Staff Member

    It could also be very well a bug :)
     
  6. J. M. Pescado

    J. M. Pescado Fat Obstreperous Jerk

    That's an interesting theory. It does stipulate that Sim who moves out takes a portion of the household funds with him, but then again, nowhere does it allow you to specify how much of the funds should be taken, nor is moving out prevented when there are obviously insufficient funds to even contemplate such an act. Plus this doesn't cover what happens if a family breaks up, and how the money is split in the case of such a breakup, especially if family cash reserves are near nil. Somebody, obviously, would have to get kicked pennilessly out into the street...but then they'd be unable to even buy a lot to stay on.
     
  7. s0m313ls3

    s0m313ls3 New Member

    if sims weren't given nothing to move out... they wuld rather be in a community lot as beggers... but the net worth should have been divided b/w all the sims in the family
     
  8. J. M. Pescado

    J. M. Pescado Fat Obstreperous Jerk

    That makes sense for CASH assets. But how do you expect to divide the net worth of a HOUSE and FURNITURE, if only one sim out of the family is moving out when most of the family's worth is composed of such nonliquid assets? Does half of the house get hauled off by a truck? Obviously, these cannot really sensibly be divided up, unless you want the house to partially disintegrate anytime a family member moves out, whether on good terms or bad.

    Meanwhile, what happens to a family where a kid moves out while the family possesses less than serviceable amount of cash? Does he, instead of moving to the family bin, become a townie that appears on community lots, squatting in a puddle of his own urine, begging passers-by for money?
     
  9. HelloKit

    HelloKit New Member

    I always figured the value of the objects in the house could be depreciated to cover the amount of cash the moving sim takes with him.
     
  10. Mirelly

    Mirelly Active Member

    I'm still trying to figure this out. I have split up families, rich and poor and frankly can't see what's going on. The single mover-out ends up in the 'hood view of families with $20K while those who remain don't seem to have lost out. Meanwhile I have married in one townie (but twice) ... the first time he brought 13,000 with him and thought: hey! I wanted my 20K! so I reloaded and tried again. Second time around I got 9,000. Poo!
    :p
     
  11. GrindLine33

    GrindLine33 New Member

    I just checked this out in the strategy guide (birthday gift... not all that useful but I've found a couple things in it) and apprently that's the way Maxis planned it. That the outgoing Sim gets 20,000 while the remaining household it unaffected. Not that realistic, but it's apprently on purpose.
     
  12. J. M. Pescado

    J. M. Pescado Fat Obstreperous Jerk

    That won't work. What happens if the house is nearly entirely structural, and any furniture is pretty worn out and beat up to begin with? A poor household often doesn't *HAVE* 20K worth of furniture, even when said furniture was new!
     
  13. J. M. Pescado

    J. M. Pescado Fat Obstreperous Jerk

    A townie who moves in brings with him some random chunk of cash from godknowswhere. If you marry off or move in a single person from an existing family, he brings with him some chunk of cash, which tends to vary depending on how much free moolah was available in that family, as well as the prominent of the migrating member. If you move the entire family, then you take all.
     
  14. Flameangel

    Flameangel New Member

    did anything dissapoint you?

    Personally, i tried a kazzillion times and i can't get my kids into private
    schoo, always get 85/90 !!!!!!!!!!!l
     
  15. J. M. Pescado

    J. M. Pescado Fat Obstreperous Jerk

    Okay, here we go again. Headmastery 101.

    First, you definitely want Free Will to be OFF prior to the arrival of the Headmaster. The last thing you need is the Sims going off on mass fridge raids and creating general anarchy.

    Now, the first thing to consider is the tour. The tour is worth a few easy points, and you probably don't have any schmoozes yet, so the "Blech" the Headmaster often makes when you choose this option won't hurt your score.

    The Headmaster likes to see rooms with high environment scores. Often times, this is the bathroom, not your large, cavernous halls. Show him rooms with green environment scores. If you have works of art that improve the environment score, feel free to do the "Potemkin Village". Before showing him the rooms, move all of your artwork into that room to boost the score! The headmaster, with his zero logic skill, will not catch onto the fact that you're showing him the same 3 pieces of art over and over. Try to end your tour in the kitchen if possible, and try to make sure the headmaster doesn't get drawn in by any of the typical fun magnets, like the games or toys. Turn these around so they're inaccessible to avoid this problem, since the Headmaster can be difficult to dislodge otherwise. Try to end your tour in the kitchen, so that the food is present and in the Headmaster's face, reducing the odds that he gets lost. The headmaster will want to end the tour around 40-50 tourpoints by himself, so make sure that the last rooms you're showing him are probably the bathrooms around the kitchen, or even the kitchen itself.

    Next, the food: Dead Arthropod never hurts, if you have some. Make sure that he is not eating a rotten plate, or a partially eaten plate. The ACTUAL dish served appears to be less important than the hunger value it satisfies.

    By this point, you're probably already in. If not, just kinda chat for a bit. If all else fails, you could always try seducing the headmaster next time he comes over. I haven't gotten this desperate yet, but I'm sure some woohoo would help your score. :)
     

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