a nearly impossible challenge

Discussion in 'The Sims 2' started by Jiko, Jul 10, 2005.

  1. Jiko

    Jiko Lab Specimen Collector

    a nearly impossible challenge

    I've decided to make friends with Mortimer Goth and invite him to move in with me. This is proving quite difficult. Lifetime points with ol' Mort pile up very slowly no matter how much you chat and entertain him. Has anyone accomplished this?

    I was getting bored and decided to do something difficult!
     
  2. Mirelly

    Mirelly Active Member

    Most of the townies and maxis made sims can be ockwood! ;) For that reason I haven't actually played any of the premade 'hoods after the first few hours of familiarisation ... they just wind me up too much because it seems they are pre-programmed to be utterly dysfunctional and (even) a compliant pescadoed sim can be a challenge to keep on the staright and narrow sometimes.

    I was going to start a new thread but this one fits my notions ...

    I addressed the problem of dating (and then marrying) the campus sims at uni. The trouble is that they will never graduated until you get control by moving one in and selecting a major. So ... when your sim graduates you have a townie to bring thru at least a semester (if you play like me it's more likely to be a couple of college "years"! :p ). So I have refined my uni playing experience and will now share ....

    I have a self built greek house. It began without cheats as a "trailer" and thanks to grandma and grandpa's wills it has grown and makes the maxis made ones look like slums. I play that house with no more than 4 and no less than 3 sims, replacing them as one graduates.

    But, as 'Freshers', all sims start off in my custom built 8 room dorm for at least one semester. This is where they make a few new friends and establish greek contacts if needed. Later they will either move out into "private houses" (2/3 students per house) or else they'll go greek. If I want to take a campus sim and marry them then at that stage I move them in with their "intended" in a private house and first make sure that the relationship is up to 100/100 then move the townie back out again and into my special 4 room dorm where (thanks to low demand on sys resources due to small lot-size ... and Pescado's mods) I can accelerate them thru the appropriate number of semesters before moving them back with their beloved. That way they graduate together ...

    And with the Dr Vu cosmetic surgery reward there is no campus nerd who cannot be improved ... lookit wot I did with Waylon Trottier! (seen below with Dr Vu's ebil apparatus and also with his lovely wife, Penn (tho she does have a thang for too much green eye-shadow :rolleyes: ). Penn's maiden name was Wilson ... how ghastly that she is now a Trottier! :(
     

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  3. Jiko

    Jiko Lab Specimen Collector

    If you're not playing the Maxis neighborhoods, you may not know Mort. If you look through a telescope during the day, it is at him - doing something nasty and private, apparently, because he invariably comes running into your house, shouts at you and makes you cry. Some sims really break down after a thrashing by Mort! He's usually in a bad mood and hard to engage in conversation. So I thought if I could get him to be my friend, that would really be something, and then if he moves in, wow. Cause he's rich.
     
  4. J. M. Pescado

    J. M. Pescado Fat Obstreperous Jerk

    The best socialization is a simple loop: Admire, Gossip, Bust-A-Move. This little gem is actually coded straight into the AutoSocializer, so if you lock it on your target, it'll do its work automatically to bring daily up to 100. After that, you can use the Cool Shades using any Lifetime Relationship booster (Admire, Backrub, Bust-A-Move are all nonromantic LTR boosters), and they'll bring up LTR. Alternatively, you can wait, and it will shift towards the current daily relationship (100), at the rate of 3 points every 8 hours. It'll take you about 3-4 days of waiting for LTR to work its way up naturally.
     
  5. Jiko

    Jiko Lab Specimen Collector

    Man, Pescado, you do lead an automated life. I don't think it's any fun to do it in a mathematical way! Maybe this is a guy thing. Are you a guy? I think so. Anyway, we are cooking along nicely with the Love Tub conversations, lots of admiring, a little charming, and some grilled cheese sandwiches. That's how it works in my life, too - except I don't have a Love Tub and dang, that would be nice. But Daddy got fired again for sucking up to the boss too much, so now he's giving that up and being a stay-at-home dad (three kids and a baby) so there's lots of time for Mort.
     
  6. Mirelly

    Mirelly Active Member

    LOL, Jiko. Pescado is definitely an automatic kinda guy. He swears by caffeine and claims not to sleep so his caffeine is analagous to a sims's energizer reward gizmo and all of a sudden we have art imitiating life. Personally I suspect that Pescado is actually a Maxis-made NPC whose programming is designed simply to throw us off the scent ... but then I am the kind a person who is glad that I am neither a "mister" nor an "Anderson". (It really is quite a scary discovery to find that some quite respectable philosphers and scientists have been able to prove mathematically that it is more likely that we are only computer simulations than we are flesh and bone reality. Excuse me while I kiss this this LCD to convince myself of reality ... :p )

    And yeah, I am kinda weird, but when you get to be a mature <ahem> "babe" being 'weird' is the least of ya worries ... :rolleyes:
     
  7. J. M. Pescado

    J. M. Pescado Fat Obstreperous Jerk

    Yes, yes I am, but no, I don't think it's so much a guy thing as it is a not-dumb-people-thing. People who aren't dumb, and aren't one of those artsy-fartsy types instead tend to be more mathematical in their approach to things. Don't you approach real life in the same way?

    BTW, the grilled cheese sandwiches are a waste of your sims' time and food budget. Feeding visitors grants no specific bonus and will not increase your LTR any faster, and is simply a waste of money. Plus, grilled cheese sandwiches have a low hunger-to-cost ratio, which makes them an inefficient source of sim-fuel.
     
  8. Kristalrose

    Kristalrose Wakey-Wakey!

    You know, I thought of JMP last night. I played TS2 until about 11:00. I then straightened up my LR before going to bed and picked up a book I had ordered about North Carolina Historical Archetecture. I picked it up to scan it and see if it had anything about my area, and it had two chapters. So, I go to bed, but take the book with me, thinking I'm going to just scan those two chapters and the next thing I knew it was 1 AM. I thought, "Geeze, I wish there was enough caffine and stimulants in the world that I could take them, keep reading this book, do all the other projects I have on the back burner, and be able to function. JMP must be superman."
     
  9. Jiko

    Jiko Lab Specimen Collector

    Oh, Pescado, this will not get you far. Smart = mathematical? Mathematical = smart? For all we can argue that painting, music and perhaps even language is essentially mathematical, they don't translate quite so simply. Haiku does not emerge from counting the number of syllables.

    Gee, since there's just no place to begin with this ridiculous notion, I'll drop it! Holy cow, I'm just shaking my head here...

    Re: grilled cheese sandwiches. Hmmm... MATHEMATICALLY SPEAKING, visitors stay longer when they are fed. That's the simple equation. Speaking in stupidly emotional and psychosocial terms, that's what friends do.

    Now I'm going to go write in my diary, look at stars, and water the plants in case there is something to be gained from these silly activities.
     
  10. surprised_by_witches

    surprised_by_witches Sleep deprived

    You tell him, Jiko ... the world is full of different kinds of people and wouldn't it be boring if we were all the same?

    I'm looking forward to the pleasure sims, 'cuz I kind of am one. Life should be enjoyable, above all, or what's the point? That's my world view, of course, and I'm happy to leave others to theirs.

    I think the world would be a lot better off if we all took what I think of as the Canadian point of view ... Oh? You're different from me? That's cool. Tell me about yourself ...

    I've considered moving there. :D
     
  11. ChaosShade

    ChaosShade New Member

    Approaching life mathematically is a symptom of left brained people. Using this fact I suspect that JMP underwent brain surgery and had the entire right hemisphere of his brain removed. Yes... SBW move to Canada soon we shall have enough population concentrated upon the borders of the USA to begin our conquest of the world so that cultural diversity can be defended by the real ultimate power of the Canadian Empire.
     
  12. J. M. Pescado

    J. M. Pescado Fat Obstreperous Jerk

    Hey, I can appreciate all that stuff, too. In fact, I play the piano. However, an intelligent approach to things is a methodical one. Even if you, yourself, do not have the particular aptitude to think of such a thing, only a fool would not acknowledge the obvious superiority of the approach once it is presented to you. It doesn't take highly mathematical mind to comprehend the "greater than" and "less than" symbols.

    Mathematically speaking, it both takes longer to feed them and costs your sims more time and money than it does to simply let them leave and invite them back. Also, if you were doing things efficiency, you wouldn't need them that long, considering that they'll last through a 5 hour party without ever being fed!

    I've never heard of this. I've never eaten at a friend's place, nor have I ever offered anyone food. There's all that troublesome "making sure it's not poisoned" stuff you have to deal with that really makes it a pointless exercise.

    Try not to get pulverized by a falling satellite. There's an 0.05% chance that this happens every approximately 6 minutes.

    What about the joy of crushing your enemies, seeing them driven before you, etc.?

    I'm always interested in the different, also. After all, if it's different, you have to evaluate whether or not it is the superior approach, and then either adopt it if it turns out to be superior, or ridicule it if it is completely insuperior.
     
  13. person123

    person123 Frumpy McDoogle!

    I always had to stare at each symbol for several seconds, and think, "Let's see, if the mouth is facing the number, then it's larger, because the mouth wants to eat the larger number, and.." and so on.

    I've always wanted to create sims out of all the people I hate at school, and then kill them in various ways--burning, drowning, starving, flies... I hate a lot of people. In fact, I could create a whole neighborhood out of sims I hate. Kevin, Jasper, Mike, Terence, Jonathan...coincidentally, they're all boys.
     
  14. Mirelly

    Mirelly Active Member

    Yeah boys have the same effect on me, 123. I subscribe to the Robert Heilein philosophy of boy-child rearing. namely that they should be sealed into a barrel at birth and fed thru the bung hole and only let out at the age of 18 ... possibly. :p On the other hand he had some quite appallling ideas on what to with girls ... :rolleyes:
     
  15. surprised_by_witches

    surprised_by_witches Sleep deprived

    UM, JP, hate to burst your bubble, but pianos are also mathematical.

    Not sure you understand the concept of "friend" ... :D

    Well, yes, I suppose I was forgetting about that. I'd rather my enemies just went away and left me alone.


    Right. Like eating spaghetti with a spoon vs. letting your neigbhors do their own thing without trying to kill them for it.

    And LOL 123 with the mouths trying to eat the numbers ... never looked at it that way before ...
     
  16. Kristalrose

    Kristalrose Wakey-Wakey!

    Well, 123, that's how I learned it, too. Think of a bird's beak opening it's mouth to eat the most berries. It always seemed pretty rediculous to me to have the sign for "Greater than/less than" point away from the right answer!!
     
  17. person123

    person123 Frumpy McDoogle!

    In 1st grade, our teachers actually made us draw alligator heads out of the symbols. Mine had blood dripping off of their teeth.
     
  18. J. M. Pescado

    J. M. Pescado Fat Obstreperous Jerk

    You people learn things in strange ways. When I was young, you learned it by being told that this was how it worked, and if you got it wrong, you got whacked with a ruler. None of this silly mouths and alligators business.
     
  19. Mirelly

    Mirelly Active Member

    You were hit with a monarch? :eek:

    My teachers were rather more conservative preferring to use either a gym shoe or a cane.
     
  20. kuponutty

    kuponutty Confused little moogle

    I learnt that the alligator always wants to eat the bigger number, because its the bigger rabbit. I felt so sick after that... Big Bunny > Small Bunny. You don't want to know what happens next.
     

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